tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9839224.post3507255789283442121..comments2023-09-22T12:40:26.587-04:00Comments on Da'as Hedyot: Better Know A Kofer - DevorahThe Hedyothttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15193083251783618457noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9839224.post-44226627143216092272011-07-08T17:15:55.396-04:002011-07-08T17:15:55.396-04:00AWESOME interview! Intelligent, skeptical woman. G...AWESOME interview! Intelligent, skeptical woman. Glad to know more of us exist ;)SpiritualSkeptichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11983255700418883987noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9839224.post-37067301901906595872011-06-21T13:36:59.489-04:002011-06-21T13:36:59.489-04:00"I am a convinced atheist. I cannot even comp..."I am a convinced atheist. I cannot even comprehend how supposedly intelligent adults can persist in believing in such an irrational notion as God."<br /><br />There are smarter people than you, of course, that disagree with you.<br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Langan<br /><br />None of this is really primarily intellectual. People always describe themselves in terms that make them look, generally, favorable, together, thoughtful, etc. But at the end of the day the reasons for going OTD are generally more complex, and the intellectual aspect tends to be after the fact.Samnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9839224.post-58253883396121630652010-12-31T03:37:08.382-05:002010-12-31T03:37:08.382-05:00Very interesting. The most refreshing thing is tha...Very interesting. The most refreshing thing is that her father seems (whether he himself knows it or not) to have acted according to Rabbi David ibn Abi Zimra, who said that anyone whose heresy is due to sincere intellectual inquiry, as opposed to being a mere pretext to sin, his heresy is not really heresy; i.e. it is not actionable or punishable.<br /><br />Also, while it would not have made a difference in the end for the interviewee, nevertheless, I would note, with regard to her being raised with the concept of "medaber v. yehudi," the observation by Rabbi David Hartman, which I saw cited by Professor Menahem Kellner, that many Israelis would become more accepting of Torah Judaism if that Judaism were of the more universalistic Maimonidean sort rather than of the parochial Kuzarian sort.Mikewind Dale (Michael Makovi)https://www.blogger.com/profile/08590233386034506578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9839224.post-10182804184781480342010-10-11T18:58:29.773-04:002010-10-11T18:58:29.773-04:00@ Jewish Philosopher
You may choose to believe or...@ Jewish Philosopher<br /><br />You may choose to believe or disbelieve items that conflict with your worldview, but for others out there, know that we exist and that willful ignorance (such as that exhibited by JP) does not negate this fact.former charedinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9839224.post-18480165180654657102010-10-11T18:45:09.233-04:002010-10-11T18:45:09.233-04:00I've just come across your blog and I thank yo...I've just come across your blog and I thank you for this post. As a former charedi myself, it's refreshing to see an honest portrayal of people who make the conscious choice to leave the community. The choice is very often extremely hard to make, after years of anguish. I think it's important for frum people to know that former frum Jews do not necessarily leave because they're rebellious or uneducated. I know that my choice to leave was the one decision I am most proud of. (I also recognize how lucky I was that I received a secular education through high school unlike some of my yeshiva friends who really had no chance of leaving the community because they had no other options. I'm also lucky that I made the decision to leave before getting married despite pressure from my rosh yeshiva and parents to do so).<br /><br />The interview also does a great job of showing that former frum Jews do not necessarily sever family relationships. Devorah seems to have a relationship with her father and I know from my own experience that when one is comfortable with the lifestyle and belief system one chooses, frum families many times accept the fact and learn to create a relationship despite the religious differences. <br /><br />In short, thank you for posting this valuable interview.former charedinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9839224.post-27580759389332834802010-10-09T18:01:01.047-04:002010-10-09T18:01:01.047-04:00+1+1Shalmonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9839224.post-69072068014545156772010-09-29T00:28:28.735-04:002010-09-29T00:28:28.735-04:00Her parents mistake was teaching her Torah.Her parents mistake was teaching her Torah.hagadahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07700099589624251463noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9839224.post-61944614752370054612010-09-26T18:43:08.869-04:002010-09-26T18:43:08.869-04:00Excellent interview. I always look forward to your...Excellent interview. I always look forward to your postings. Please post more often.<br />JonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9839224.post-90241629477844193122010-09-26T16:40:08.616-04:002010-09-26T16:40:08.616-04:00Is there any way to verify this story?Is there any way to verify this story?jewish philosopherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17987540457195983665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9839224.post-20194403268316198962010-09-25T22:26:26.039-04:002010-09-25T22:26:26.039-04:00Thank you for this interview. It can feel so lone...Thank you for this interview. It can feel so lonely when choosing a path contrary to the one you were raised with and hearing these stories is so inspirational.Miriamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18409262703978144368noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9839224.post-6911371931910487282010-09-23T21:03:35.401-04:002010-09-23T21:03:35.401-04:00Fabulous interview. Devorah sounds like a warm, in...Fabulous interview. Devorah sounds like a warm, intelligent woman and a wise and loving parent. Kudos for another wonderful Kofer interview.chaniefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11775472765573087258noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9839224.post-28207925178972042462010-09-22T17:20:41.014-04:002010-09-22T17:20:41.014-04:00Great story! Keep em coming.Great story! Keep em coming.Baal Haboshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12861222390091673835noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9839224.post-10639526322826044452010-09-22T09:12:04.159-04:002010-09-22T09:12:04.159-04:00Wow, what an amazing and inspiring story. I wish I...Wow, what an amazing and inspiring story. I wish I had her brains 20 years ago, instead of waking up now in my thrities with kids in yeshiva.Elinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9839224.post-14398754211088236942010-09-21T22:35:26.742-04:002010-09-21T22:35:26.742-04:00Great Interview! Keep 'em coming!Great Interview! Keep 'em coming!Shilton HaSechelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11445959470426455186noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9839224.post-78807344572255687072010-09-21T22:29:19.876-04:002010-09-21T22:29:19.876-04:00Very nice. She sounds like a hell of a woman. Lo...Very nice. She sounds like a hell of a woman. Love this series.Jewish Atheisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04616617537150446818noreply@blogger.com